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Yes, you are right, I should spend more time developing new arguments and cooperating with other editors. I will try to focus on that. Thanks for your feedback :)


Lenka, 19:28, 15th December, 2009

Happy New Year

Thanks Brooks :)

Enjoy your holidays and - happy New Year!

Lenka, 11:40, 31st December, 2009

Added arguments and sources and subquestions to the three empty argument

I added some arguments to the gambling tax, fully-body scan, and the "too big to fail" debates that you made. Bye--Voltaire 00:56, 1 January 2010 (CST)

Re: Welcome (Mason11987)

Thanks Brooks, I've had this idea for a wiki site for a while but it's always seemed just too messy. The templates you're using (and mods I assume) all make it very easy to focus on ideas instead of wiki-syntax. Even though I love the latter it's a barrier to entry for a lot of users. I've been admin/bureaucrat at several different similar sized wikis where I normally focus on organization and planning, as well as using templates for a lot of interesting things. I'll be looking more into the site sometime later this week to see if there is any place where I could provide some value.

Just to kick off my assistance I always found it extremely useful if people added a talk link (and optionally a contributions link) to their signature in order to make conversations easier. I've modified my signature like so: Mason11987 (Talk)

In case you're interested I figured I'd set you up with the same, just go to your preferences and check "Raw signature" and paste this into your nickname:

[[User:Brooks Lindsay|Brooks Lindsay]]<sup> ([[User talk:Brooks Lindsay|Talk]])</sup>

Mason11987 (Talk) 14:48, 19 January 2010 (CST)

1. In terms of forums, mediawiki, unless heavily modded, isn't really very good for this kind of thing in my opinion. I've seen several sites use mediawiki for their content and use something like vBulliten for their community discussion. I know it's possible to link the two so that users don't have to make accounts on both, but I have no experience in actually pulling something like that off.

Hopefully I can get more of a look around the site to try to assist on some community related things. I really like where it's going so far though. Mason11987 (Talk) 21:51, 21 January 2010 (EST)


Am I allowed to delete an argument that is on the side I am arguing in a debate if the argument is inaccurate. For example, on the capitalism vs socialism debate someone has added an argument using the "successes" of the Soviet Union to argue for socialism even though the SU was NOT socialist (a point that I made repeatedly). Can I delete this and if not then what can I do?

re: editing

I feel bad deleted someone's work... Is there anyway you can contact the person who edited it and explain the predicament to them so it isn't as harsh if I delete it?

Those big government debates

Hi, I recently clicked on the newest pages button to see some new action and debates. What I found was a series of debates about big governments that was made by you. I mean no offense, but why not put them with the Big Government debate? It's just that it may be a bit confusing. Thanks. --Voltaire 10:33, 28 January 2010 (EST)


Oh, I didn't realize that those were extensions of long quotes and things like that. I'm sorry.

Alkaline Diet

It's this one.

re: capitalism vs socialism

I tried to change the second title link so it was a real word and I broke the link. Can you please help?

Also, can you notify me when someone edits the debate capitalism vs socialism?

Liberationfromwithin 16:51, 28 January 2010 (EST)

re: link

It's ok, i fixed it. And I put it on watch :) Thank you.


Hey, I'm sorry about the "ToC" mess. I just though it a good idea to make all (even less-developed debates) look alike - at least as far as layout is concerned.

Actually, how about arranging a Skype talk sometime? (This Sunday, my evening? Would that suit you?)


Lenka, 29th January, 2010, 14:57

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission

Well, I found out about the Supreme Court's ruling on the topic, and crawled through Debatepedia looking for it. Yet I didn't find it, so I made a debate myself. Although, I may have some debating skills, I have horrible Internet skills. So please try to improve the debate. Just search "Right for corporations to spend money to influence elections". Something will show up. I know that this is an important topic, and a debate like that could certainly use help from the editor himself. It would mean much to me if you do. Thanks. --Voltaire 11:41, 29 January 2010 (EST)


Whoa, what a coincidence. What you said was a great move, merging the debates together. I think it's a great idea, and I think you should do it. Bye. --Voltaire 05:09, 30 January 2010 (EST)

changing a link title

Hi. There is a link to an extended argument on capitalism vs socialism that is entitled "market prices do not reflect externalities". Could you please change that to "market prices do not reflect social cost"? Since I am afraid to change it for fear of corrupting the link.

Liberationfromwithin 22:00, 30 January 2010 (EST)

re: changing argument title

Thank you. That works.

The reason I don't want to use "externalities" is because it is not generally understood and it doesn't mean what I want, whereas "social cost" sums up more succinctly what I want to say and is more universally understood. What I am trying to say is that market prices do not reflect costs to society ("social cost"), in cases such as environmental damage, human rights abuses etc. The word "externalities" just means everything that is left out of market prices because it effects third parties. Saying "market prices exclude externalities" is like saying "prices in central planning are decided by the state - it's just reiterating what the word means. Social cost is the particular type of externality that makes market prices so dangerous and socially distorted.

Liberationfromwithin 11:55, 1 February 2010 (EST)

re: hey

Hi. I'm doing fine. What about you? Cool, I was going to add something to the corporate spending debate but it was too mainstream and based on too many mainstream assumptions (such as that corporations should not be instantly abolished, or that polyarchy is a desirable system) so that if I added something I would undercut the arguments of the other people arguing against corporate spending on elections.

One question: I am going off to Tanzania for a week and a half on wednesday so could you please wait until I get back (saturday week) to feature capitalism vs socialism?

Liberationfromwithin 14:13, 8 February 2010 (EST)

re: corps

I'm going as a school trip. We are going to help teach and build stuff at a school for blind children. We are also going to the Ngorongoro crater. I will tell you. Where are you going?

Liberationfromwithin 16:15, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Israeli-U.S special relations debate

Hi. I've just edited the Israeli-U.S special relations debate that you've made. I made 3 subquestions, wrote the background, and added some links. Yet I did a lousy job because I was in a hurry. Speaking of hurrying, I must go now! Bye.--Voltaire 04:02, 21 February 2010 (EST)

re: hey

Thank you. What is the dedicated arguments page by the way? And how do I put stuff on it?

capitalism vs socialism

What happened to my edit about how imperialism is a necessary part of capitalism? You know, the one with the long quote from the Indian economist. If you have deleted it then is there any way to resurrect it?

Liberationfromwithin 14:43, 22 February 2010 (EST)

re: discarded argument

Thank you. I have re split up the argument explaining imperialism from the one explaining the results of it. You can make the second one so that only one paragraph shows and the rest is in the extended argument section, like you did with the other ones. But please keep the links. I just had to manually put each back in.

Liberationfromwithin 15:36, 22 February 2010 (EST)

re: comments

Thank you. I understand now.

Yeah, that was what I was worried about. I feel uncomfortable saying something unless I can give extensive evidence. But I guess if it won't be ignored then it is fine.

By the way, I rearranged it so the history one is before the philosophy one because I feel it works better at the beginning as it is the most practical. Is that ok?

Liberationfromwithin 16:25, 22 February 2010 (EST)

re: more comments

That sounds fine. I will try to do that as much as I can.

Liberationfromwithin 17:22, 23 February 2010 (EST)

merging debates

I was just wondering if you would be able to merge my arguments in the climate debt debate that never took off into arguments for the debate on increasing debt to developing countries (you know the one on the front page)?

capitalism vs socialism

Hi. I think I've done condensing my arguments in capitalism vs socialism. Are there any that need to be further condensed?

Liberationfromwithin 15:06, 2 March 2010 (EST)

Re:Checking in

Hi Brooks. Thanks, I am doing fine, although I have been quite snowed under lately. How have you been by the way? We have not Skyped for a long time.

I am planning on jumping in again tomorrow, because now I am in the mountains and my Internet access is kinda crappy.

Best, Lenka, 10th March 2010, 18:25


Hi. Thank you, I´m doing ok (despite the fact that I am preparing for AP exams - you surely know them, don´t you?)..

Actually, I won´t be applying to any US university because there are no scholarships for undergraduates and I am kind of short of cash. Thanks to the EU grants and student loans I will be able to apply to British universities - so far I have chosen three (I have plenty time given that Oxbridge deadline is sometime in October and all the others are in December or so).

I would be really grateful if you could write a letter of recommendation for me, but the thing is - the universities want primarily something by some of my teachers. However, it is possible to submit an additional reference later, directly to the university. So I think this would be a way to go.

How have you been lately? Any special plans for Debatepedia for the coming weeks?


Lenka, 23rd March 2010, 19:22

Days to come

Thanks :)

Oh, I wanted to apologise - I am flying to Lithuania (World Individual Debating and Public Speaking Championship) on Wednesday, so I (most probably) won´t be able to write anything in the next few days.

Is there anything special you would like me to focus on when I come back?


Lenka, 5th April 2010, 18:19

re: hey there

I'm doing fine but I have lots of work to do for school. I have got some very good books recently though :) how are you doing? how are the debates going?

Wow, that's alot of views. I would say about half of those views are me adding more to the debate. lol

Liberationfromwithin 15:08, 5 April 2010 (EDT)

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